Legislature(1997 - 1998)
02/27/1998 03:25 PM House L&C
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HB 458 - GOLF COURSE BEER/WINE LICENSE Number 0093 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG announced the committee's first item of business was HB 458, "An Act relating to establishing a golf course alcoholic beverage license to allow sales of beer and wine; and providing for an effective date." He stated HB 458 was coming in as a committee bill. He referred to information in the committee members' packets and explained that the City of Palmer and its golf course ran into a problem after the course's establishment a few years ago. Chairman Rokeberg said he believed what occurred was that approximately concurrent with the establishment of the Palmer Municipal Golf Course, a regulation was passed by the Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) Board for a municipal golf course license in 15 AAC 104.670, providing that a beer and wine license could be obtained by a municipal golf course with a minimum of nine holes covering 1,200 yards ["120 yards" stated on tape] for a biennial fee of $400. He indicated he believed the ABC Board had no real authority to do that, commenting there was a provision in the statutes which "gave them a little bit of a wrinkle there." Chairman Rokeberg said the problem with the license is that the beer and wine could be served in the building but not taken outside, which he indicated is a traditional golf course practice. He said that beverages are traditionally available at the "turn" between the ninth and tenth holes, and, in the more luxurious golf courses, beverages are often sold from a cart driven around the course. Number 0326 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG indicated a golf course would have to have a "package store license" to sell alcohol to be taken outside, and therefore, in Alaska, a golf course would be required to have both a beer and wine license and a package store license to allow these traditional functions which revolve around a recreational golf course area. He believed the testimony would show the difficulties the City of Palmer has had with this particular issue, noting the issue first came to his attention almost two years ago; he had hoped something could have been worked out in the interim but it has not been. Chairman Rokeberg also commented on the proliferation of golf course development and planned golf course development in Alaska and worldwide. He said golf is a growing sport because of changing demographics and aging populations, and he indicated the bill, in addition to clearing up the statute to help out the municipal golf courses, is also designed to encourage the development of golf courses throughout the state which meet minimum standards. He said, "Also to make sure that it didn't come in the population count. ... As you all know, there are certain restrictions on the number of types of licenses that relate to population, so this bill exempts that." He stated a course had to be "championship in nature." Although only nine holes are required, half of a true championship course, he said it has to be a long course, referring to Version K and indicating the committee might want to adjust those standards slightly. Chairman Rokeberg noted it was questionable whether the Mendenhall golf course in Juneau would qualify. REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON commented the new one would though. Number 0556 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG referred to information in the packets, commenting that the Weeping Trout Sports Resort in Haines would also be too short to qualify because it wasn't championship in nature. He stated that it usually required a capital investment of well in excess of a million dollars to develop a true championship golf course of at least nine holes, noting HB 458 would be helpful to the economic development of the area and the building of golf courses. He stated there were approximately three witnesses waiting to testify. Number 0613 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COWDERY confirmed that all the laws governing the sale of alcohol, including sale to minors, would still apply. Number 0623 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG answered in the affirmative. He indicated Mr. Griffin from the ABC Board was available for questions via teleconference. Number 0631 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY confirmed that possible existing restrictions regarding things like liquor licenses being close to schools had been considered. Number 0654 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted those restrictions did exist and had been considered. Number 0671 REPRESENTATIVE JOE RYAN said that it appeared on the surface that anyone who consumes alcohol and plays golf would have a conflict of interest, noting that he did not do either and was declaring a non- conflict but was going to keep an eye on everybody else. Number 0682 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG said he was a golf aficionado but could not imbibe alcoholic beverages and play golf simultaneously, noting he therefore had no direct conflict of interest. Number 0710 REPRESENTATIVE RYAN noted he had to go a House Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee meeting for a bill. Number 0715 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated the committee had a proposed committee substitute (CS) before it. Number 0721 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON moved the adoption of Version L, proposed CS for HB 458, labeled 0-LS0507\L, Ford, dated 2/27/98. He asked unanimous consent. Number 0729 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG requested that Representative Ryan return to the meeting at some point, commenting that it was the chairman's intention to move HB 458 that day unless there were substantial problems. He stated the proposed CS had been adopted, and indicated the change from the original bill was on page 2, line 31, where the golf course size had been increased from 2,500 to 2,950 yards. He said they believe the new Muskey Meadow golf course in Wrangell is 3,035 yards, indicating they want to make sure that this is adequate to make a distinction between a true golf course and a smaller "pitch and putt (indisc.)" or executive course. Number 0783 JEFF BARNHART, Manager, Palmer Municipal Golf Course (Palmer Golf Course) and Russian Jack Springs Municipal Golf Course, testified via teleconference from Anchorage. He referred to his letter which was in the bill packet, noting that the Palmer Municipal Golf Course had run into many financial difficulties until the current year, and had become a drain on the City of Palmer's finances. He said the course was turned over to a management group and is slowly turning around financially. Mr. Barnhart commented on the liquor restriction; beer and wine can be sold but cannot leave the building. In the situation of tournaments, noting they have had nearly 60 tournaments a season, beer, wine and sodas have been provided for entertainment and fund-raising purpose. However, he indicated, he cannot sell any beer or wine on the course and people end up bringing their own because of the way the law is currently written. He noted the alcoholic beverages are on the golf course, but he is not able to benefit or add any profit situation to the golf course. Number 0896 MR. BARNHART also indicated he cannot sell alcoholic beverages to the course's weekend or mid-week players who would like to take a beer or two with them out onto the course or buy one at the turn shack. Again, he has found these players simply bring it themselves without restriction from the golf course, noting that is how these players enjoy their golf and he certainly wants them to continue to enjoy their golf. However, he indicated this has put some economic strain on the golf course. Mr. Barnhart said there is another problem, although not as significant, which he sees as a control problem. He indicated he has no way of knowing, besides the standard indications of intoxication, how many alcoholic beverages a person may have consumed on the course if that person then goes into the building to drink after a golf game. He said they would have a better "handle" on alcohol consumption rates if they were the ones that were able to sell alcoholic beverages to these people, noting, again, that people are bringing it themselves. His understanding of the package store license is that (indisc.) could buy one, step outside the door and drink it with it still being lawful. He said that if he's capable of selling beer or wine to people, he can prohibit people from bringing it or introducing it to the golf course as is done at the state fair, noting introducing alcoholic beverages to the fairgrounds or leaving the partitioned premises with it is not allowed. Number 1013 MR. BARNHART said the other thing (indisc.) is that the bill is more open than just to municipal golf courses, indicating the sale of alcoholic beverages is such a large area of profit, and such an expected part of a golf course out of state or for golf course development in Alaska. He commented, "You'd definitely want to be able to sell the beer and wine. If you really, really had the investment, you'd probably take it beyond that, which would make a large investment into a much more expensive liquor license." Mr. Barnhart noted the cost of golf course development, commenting that the Palmer Golf Course was built for a little over $2 million and the land did not have to be purchased. He said a large development could easily run $5 million dollars and every avenue to generate the income would certainly be needed, noting that was generally his concern. He said he has had meetings with the Municipality of Anchorage regarding its desires for the Russian Jack Springs Golf Course, and does not know if it would ever be pursued, but he said if it was available, it could certainly become more of an issue for them to deal with. Mr. Barnhart stated the Palmer Golf Course definitely needs it, commenting that the golf course has probably drained off nearly $2 million dollars out of the city's funds and has created problems for many years. He said they have turned it around but will need help to continue growth as other golf courses are developed in the area, indicating Fort Richardson is expanding to an 18-hole course. He noted they need to be able to compete, or at least keep their heads above water, so that the golf course will be able to pay for itself and the Palmer taxpayers won't have to continue to support it. He commented that this was the ultimate goal. Number 1130 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if this problem could be solved if the golf course could purchase a package store license. Number 1137 MR. BARNHART replied in the affirmative. However, he said Palmer's demographics are so small and the political arena is such that the city's government does not want to compete against a private citizen for that particular license if it became available. He said the golf course had been rezoned and the boundaries of the city limits redrawn so the golf course would have to pay sales tax, indicating the city was very growth-oriented and did not want to be in competition with the public for the "growth money." Number 1183 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked how many yards the Russian Jack Springs Golf Course was. Number 1200 MR. BARNHART replied that the Russian Jack course was "just shy" of 3,000 yards, depending on tee position. CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if it would qualify at 2,950 yards from the tips. MR. BARNHART responded that length would require some reconfiguration, indicating a 2,500 yard requirement would allow the course to qualify. He noted that measurement is a tough one, as they had previously discussed, questioning what set of tees is the yardage measurement taken from. Number 1216 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted he would say for the maximum yardage, to the benefit of the course. Number 1221 MR. BARNHART stated he thought 2,500 yards would be a very comfortable yardage for any developer, even for a nine-hole, executive-style course which he said is a popular style of course because of the lower amount of land needed. He indicated he thinks any developer would build a nice golf course if the minimum yardage was 2,500. Number 1241 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted that the limits had been raised in the bill to 2,950 yards. MR. BARNHART said he thought that the tee configuration at the Russian Jack Springs Golf Course could be conformed to that. Number 1254 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG indicated the intention was to only have truly real golf courses qualify rather than executive or "pitch and putt" courses. Number 1261 MR. BARNHART indicated the "mom and pop" backyard courses would be eliminated by this legislation, noting he thought that was the way to go. He said there wasn't the developmental money, for one. Mr. Barnhard indicated he thinks they need to use this as a pro- development tool. He said he thinks when they want to build more tourist attractions or more things for tourists to do, that these tourists should be going to a better-quality, nicer golf course, indicating he doesn't think a "mom and pop" backyard, four-hole course should be able to sell beer and wine. Mr. Barnhart said he thinks this is designed correctly and is pro-development. Number 1297 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked Mr. Barnhart if he was a member of the Professional Golfers' Association of America (PGA). MR. BARNHART answered in the affirmative. CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG confirmed that Mr. Barnhart was a golf "pro." He noted the committee would go first to the two witnesses in Juneau. Number 1335 DON DAPCEVICH, Executive Director, Governor's Advisory Board on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse, came forward to testify. He said he has been instructed by the board to speak in opposition to HB 458. He noted he was an avid golfer and he speaks personally and professionally against this. He stated they just keep finding new ways to get new outlets to sell alcohol in Alaska. He said Alaska would have to increase its population to 1,575,000 people to conform to the existing rules with regards to distilled spirits. He reiterated that they keep finding more ways to sell more alcohol in Alaska, and they "keep burying the fruits of those sales by all the problems" they have in the criminal justice and court systems. Mr. Dapcevich noted his other concern was that this bill appears to limit access to golf by youth, if golf courses become one large beer and wine license facility. He said, from a public policy standpoint, he thinks this is poor public policy and would speak against the bill. Number 1416 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG referred to Mr. Dapcevich's statement that he was an avid golfer and asked him if all the real golf courses he has played have served alcoholic beverages. Number 1426 MR. DAPCEVICH replied that most do serve alcoholic beverages. Number 1431 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if he could name one that didn't. Number 1435 MR. DAPCEVICH recalled he has played several courses in Arizona and California that do not allow alcohol on the course but do sell it in the bars. Number 1446 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted Mr. Dapcevich indicated the Governor's Advisory Board on Alcohol and Drug Abuse had instructed him to oppose HB 458. He asked if the board had met on this very bill. MR. DAPCEVICH replied that the board had considered all the bills in its winter meeting, noting HB 458 was the last bill the board had considered at its meeting in Juneau the previous week, on the day this bill had been introduced. Number 1468 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated he was glad the board had a chance to look at it. He asked Mr. Dapcevich if he drank alcohol. MR. DAPCEVICH answered in the negative. Number 1489 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG called Fred James to testify, indicating Mr. James had signed the witness register for HB 458 and was from Palmer. FRED JAMES indicated he wished to testify on HB 400, but said he liked HB 458. Number 1507 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked if the advisory board's control over licenses was principally relating to population, and if that was the biggest concern, that this does not relate to population or proximity to schools and things of that nature. Number 1536 MR. DAPCEVICH said the board's concern is that the number of outlets for alcohol in the state keep growing "by leaps and bounds" far beyond the intent or the spirit of the statute. He indicated this is just another one of those special conditions making alcohol even more accessible in Alaska, which already has a significant alcohol problem. Number 1558 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON noted the outside recreational aspect of golf, indicating he thought this seemed to be of less social harm than many of the other situations where alcoholic beverages were available. Number 1585 MR. DAPCEVICH responded he would not suggest that a beer and wine license was more detrimental than a distilled spirits license in terms of the social harm it does. Number 1600 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY said it was his observation that golfers sometimes drive for good distances to play golf. He said golfers could presently bring their own alcoholic beverages to the course, asking if that was correct. Number 1628 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG replied they could to the Palmer Golf Course but he thought it varied, depending on the particular course's rules and regulations, and it was very customary to restrict the use of personal alcohol on courses. He referred to Mr. Barnhart's testimony, indicating he believed that if the Palmer Golf Course had this license, it would be able to better control alcohol consumption on the course because the course management could prohibit the importation of alcoholic beverages not purchased from the clubhouse or golf course. Number 1658 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY indicated there seemed to be a freedom issue as well. He noted he was not normally a beer consumer, mentioning restaurants. He said if people go to the golf course and this is what they want, it was more of a "freedom thing" and they should give this ability to the course owners to enhance that. Number 1701 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG responded: 1) that it was clear in their statutory scheme that the state has a compelling interest to regulate alcohol consumption; and 2) the rules and regulations of a private, public or quasi-public premise rules of conduct (indisc.) that each individual organization and private club, for example, should be able to make up their own rules, noting he didn't think there were any infringements on right here. He asked Mr. Dapcevich if the advisory board had ever supported the creation of a new type of liquor license. Number 1741 MR. DAPCEVICH answered, "Absolutely not." Number 1744 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted, then, that the board's opposition to this license was not inconsistent with its ongoing policy to oppose any new outlets, et cetera. He asked if that was correct. MR. DAPCEVICH answered in the affirmative. Number 1753 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG said then that the board did not make a distinction as to whether this license would be less harmful vis- - vis any other type of license. Number 1758 MR. DAPCEVICH replied only with respect to the matter of youth being served by golf courses and also being exposed to alcohol under this scenario, noting that makes it somewhat different from other licenses and more onerous. Number 1778 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted he hoped that in this society this would not lead to further uncontrolled and improper abuse of alcoholic beverages. Number 1792 MR. DAPCEVICH clarified that the board was not prohibitionist; the board is opposed to any new licenses or any licenses that go beyond the spirit and the statute with regards to population base and alcohol sales in the state. Number 1806 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated the committee would take testimony next from Doug Griffin, and appreciated any direction Mr. Griffin could give the committee on this bill. Number 1824 DOUG GRIFFIN, Director, Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, testified via teleconference from Anchorage [NOTE: FURTHER TESTIMONY SHOWS MR. GRIFFIN'S INITIAL STATEMENTS WERE BASED ON THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF HB 458, NOT THE PROPOSED CS]. He said the best way for him to approach it was from a technical, then policy, side. He said the city manager of the City of Palmer had come to the ABC Board in approximately August of 1996 addressing this issue, and the board at that time suggested the purchase of a package store license. He indicated, given the local politics and the availability of municipal funds, that may not have been an option. Mr. Griffin said there was no question that the board was "at loggerheads" with the Palmer Golf Course and the City of Palmer on that point. Based on that situation, he would have to say that the board still thinks a package store license is the best option for the golf course, commenting that it would also be in opposition to creating a new license and license type. He said the board tries to accommodate the needs of people to have access to alcoholic beverages within the existing license structure and it tries very much to use the current general license structure to meet needs as these needs arise. Mr. Griffin noted the authority in the regulation for creating a municipal golf course license had been mentioned. He indicated that license was created somewhat in response to a request from the City of Palmer when it started its municipal-type golf course, which was unique at time. He noted he was not the director of the ABC Board at that time, nor did he believe any of the current members were serving, but the statutory authority he would cite for that action by the board was AS 04.06.100, subsection (14), "creation of classifications of licenses or permits not provided for in this title;" which basically says that the board, by regulation, can create classifications of licenses or permits not provided for in that title. He noted, therefore, that the board has a fairly broad mandate in the creation of new licenses and probably could have done so when so requested by the City of Palmer a couple of years ago. He said the board had not chosen to do so because it felt that the licenses were out there. He indicated the board thought that if the City of Palmer felt this was necessary as a business decision, the license would be purchased, and he understood the financial hardship associated with this Mr. Barnhart mentioned. Mr. Griffin said he thought the board would be opposed to HB 458 just because it does create an additional license and a new type of license. Number 1972 MR. GRIFFIN indicated there were some real problems from a technical point of view. He said the board thinks an unintended consequence of the bill is that the entire golf course would become the licensed premise, and he thinks it is very clear that is what the bill does. He said, in effect, the area of the whole golf course was being made into a bar, and all kinds of statutes from Title 4 would come into play. However, he said, most importantly, anyone under the age of 21 would be legally prohibited from entering and remaining on the premises of the golf course unless accompanied by a parent or legal guardian - it would be the same as a minor entering and remaining in a bar. So, even though the ABC Board has the policy concerns, he said that is why the board, in its discussions with Palmer's city manager and others, thought the package store approach made the most sense. He noted this was what was used at the Anchorage Golf Course on O'Malley Road; a person could go in, buy a couple of beers and consume them on the course, and he commented that there is no legal prohibition in Alaska against consuming alcohol in public, assuming the person is of proper age and not creating any other kind of nuisance in doing so. He said that from a technical standpoint this solution would be less problematic for the people they were trying to assist. Mr. Griffin emphasized the board was opposed from a policy point, but, he said, if the committee really wanted to do this, in order to make this thing work better, he recommended the establishment of some type of municipal golf course package store license. He indicated limiting the license to beer and wine might make it a little easier. Mr. Griffin said he was available for questions, noting Bill Roche, Enforcement Supervisor, Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, was also available. Number 2128 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated it had not been the committee's intent to limit youth golfing and he indicated clarification had been requested from the drafter to make certain the bill did not do these very things brought to the committee's attention by Mr. Griffin and Mr. Dapcevich. Chairman Rokeberg indicated he was asking Mr. Griffin if language replicating the beer and wine license and package store license would make him more comfortable. Number 2167 MR. GRIFFIN said that would accomplish what the committee was trying to accomplish; the board would still be opposed to it, but would be a lot less opposed. He noted a good point had been made, giving the example of a recreational site license approved by the ABC Board for the racetrack not too far from the Palmer Golf Course. He noted part of the rationale used was the same issue Mr. Barnhart had raised, the management of the premise would have more control. He indicated, however, he did not think it would be enough to convince the board to create another type of license. He said that aspect does make some sense if it went hand in hand with prohibiting people from bringing their own alcohol onto the course, noting he thinks management could do this as a matter of policy if they provided through their own package store. Number 2221 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated Mr. Griffin said the board would oppose this on the policy it did not want to create another license but he suggested that they would not really be creating another license; they would be replacing an existing regulation that specifies a municipal golf course license which this bill would terminate. He said basically the regulatory license promulgated by the board would be replaced by a statutory license. Number 2247 MR. GRIFFIN said that was a good point. He noted the scope of the existing license the board created through regulation was being expanded, indicating he was not sure how the board would look on that. Number 2281 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG stated, "I also suggest to you, sir, that by raising the yardage requirements up that -- the municipal regulation now is only 1,200 yards, we're - we're raising it up to a real substantial investment and a ... major construction-type project which would be intended to generate tourism and (indisc.) be an amenity to a community, and would - would necessitate the scope of activities including environmental impact statements and full public hearings before a course could even be built, and therefore would have a lot of public input on it." He indicated it would not be somebody's back yard "pitch and putt" ["20 acres" stated on tape]. Although he noted Mr. Griffin was correct in that HB 458 expanded the scope of the license from the municipality to anybody in the public or private sector and he appreciated Mr. Griffin's testimony. Chairman Rokeberg stated they had requested the bill drafter, Mike Ford, to inform the committee of his intentions in the drafting of the bill. Chairman Rokeberg noted the instructions had been given to draft the bill in such a manner that it would meet the criticisms which have been raised, and he said, either Mr. Ford would convince then all, or the bill would be held over until the language was corrected, because they did not want the bill to contain anything which would restrict the use of a recreational facility by youth. Chairman Rokeberg indicated to Mr. Ford that Version L had been adopted by the committee but concern had been raised by page 2, new section 04.11.115, "(a) A golf course license authorizes the licensee to sell and serve beer and wine for consumption on licensed premises located on a golf course." The chairman noted it went on to say in subsection (c) on line 21 "... and a detailed diagram that clearly identifies a proposed area that constitutes the licensed premises. ...", and testimony from the ABC Board and other sources states that a boundary is being delineated which would be analogous to one big bar. Number 2428 MR. GRIFFIN stated that they had just received a copy of the proposed CS and he thinks it may address those issues. He requested a minute to review the current version. Number 2443 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked Mr. Ford what he did to fix this. TAPE 98-20, SIDE B Number 0007 MIKE FORD, Attorney, Legislative Legal and Research Service, Legislative Affairs Agency, came forward to testify. As he understands the problem, they do not want to describe licensed premises as being the golf course, so in this version he has attempted to restrict the licensed premises to a building or a motor vehicle on the golf course, not to the entire course. He said if that has not been achieved, changes can be made, but he believes the proposed CS should solve that problem of having an entire golf course become off limits to people under age 21. Number 0052 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG said that then the problem becomes that all good golfers want to encourage walking, not riding golf carts, and he asked what happens to the walking golfer under Mr. Ford's definition on page 3. Number 0070 MR. FORD replied he didn't see that as being a problem. A person could still walk up to the motorized vehicle and partake if the person chose, but the person would not be required to ride a cart. Number 0085 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if a person could carry an open container down the fairway and consume it. Number 0102 MR. FORD confirmed that Chairman Rokeberg was referring to walking with a can of beer. He said he would like to hear what the ABC Board thought of that, commenting that if it was necessary, new language could be created. Number 0131 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted that was a constituent element everyone saw there, indicating the situation where the entire boundaries of the golf course is described as the licensed premise because of the impact on underage people. Number 0150 MR. FORD clarified that they were talking simply about sales of beer, not possession. He noted Chairman Rokeberg was speaking of possession walking on the course. Mr. Ford said possession is currently allowed and that shouldn't be a problem. Number 0180 MR. GRIFFIN stated that was correct. He indicated they had looked the proposed CS over and it appears the committee has addressed the board's concern about the licensed premise issue, noting he thinks Mr. Ford has clearly done that. He stated he thinks this is okay and the technical aspect has been addressed. Number 0224 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted there had been earlier testimony stating there was no prohibition on the consumption of alcohol, with the restriction of no open container in a motor vehicle. Number 0248 There was a brief discussion between Chairman Rokeberg, Mr. Ford and Mr. Griffin regarding the term "motor vehicle," and whether it was necessary to add the language "unlicensed" to indicate that the motor vehicle in question on the golf course would most likely be a motorized golf cart. Number 0368 MR. GRIFFIN stated he did not think there was going to be a problem, noting he did not think they need to call it an unlicensed vehicle. He indicated the vehicle clearly needed to be operated safely and in way that was not hazardous to anyone. Number 0432 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG thanked Mr. Ford for his testimony. He stated that concluded the testimony on HB 458; the committee would hold the bill over for a short period and proceed with the meeting agenda. HB 458 - GOLF COURSE BEER/WINE LICENSE Number 2236 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG indicated HB 458 was back before the committee. He stated he would entertain a motion on Version L, the proposed CS for HB 458 labeled 0-LS0507\L, Ford, dated 2/27/98. Number 2243 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY made a motion to move Version L. Number 2245 CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if there were any objections. There being none, he stated CSHB 458(L&C) was so moved with the attached zero fiscal note and individual recommendations.
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